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1 Where is John? on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 19:55

Of all the webisodes that have been released, John hasnt been mentioned or seen in the recording process. Do you think John wasnt involved in recording or came in way late due to schedule conflicts? Or even worse, do we have a new bassist?

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2 Re: Where is John? on Wed 22 Jul 2015, 03:28

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hes in the new photos i think there gonna do a video with all the members the last was with dan so the next could be john i think there will be a video or videos of him to come just need to wait and see






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3 Re: Where is John? on Thu 23 Jul 2015, 18:19

Saw Dan recording bass in the latest webisode.  Scares me.

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4 Re: Where is John? on Thu 23 Jul 2015, 21:35

Those webisodes aren't recent. The earliest one seems to take place around the beginning of the recording process, back in February of 2014, shortly after Dan, Mike and David met and decided to start writing material together. Around that time John was playing in Adrenaline Mob and that supergroup called The Foundry with Blaze Bayley and A. J. Pero (R.I.P).

Also during 2014, he had to record that debut album with Art of Anarchy, and he was also asked to record bass on Geoff Tate's debut album, The Key as a part of the Operation: Mindcrime line-up.

He had the most projects of anyone. It'd be asking a lot to just drop them all.

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5 Re: Where is John? on Thu 23 Jul 2015, 21:39

WickedKnightAlbel wrote:Those webisodes aren't recent. The earliest one seems to take place around the beginning of the recording process, back in February of 2014, shortly after Dan, Mike and David met and decided to start writing material together. Around that time John was playing in Adrenaline Mob and that supergroup called The Foundry with Blaze Bayley and A. J. Pero (R.I.P).

Also during 2014, he had to record that debut album with Art of Anarchy, and he was also asked to record bass on Geoff Tate's debut album, The Key as a part of the Operation: Mindcrime line-up.

He had the most projects of anyone. It'd be asking a lot to just drop them all.
Thanks for the info.

I just think it'd be weird if John wasnt included in the process.

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6 Re: Where is John? on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 14:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzrWzeVEsvg I typed john moyer interview in 2015 this is what's come up

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7 Re: Where is John? on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 17:15

disturbed fan86 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzrWzeVEsvg I typed john moyer interview in 2015 this is what's come up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYg_OcIozrg

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8 Re: Where is John? on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 18:20

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1echo ive seen them before there a good band no doubt john was there supporting them as for him being absent in the beginning of the record i agree with wickednightabel that he was with his other band with them and came on board later on i mean look at many photos he is in the group thats for sure and on the record






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9 Re: Where is John? on Sat 08 Aug 2015, 17:31

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1 echo sound pretty damn good. Need to check out more of their stuff

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10 Re: Where is John? on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 18:22

https://www.facebook.com/JohnMoyerOfficial/photos/a.168708286583130.35310.168650659922226/825478164239469

Like I said, he's a busy guy.

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11 Re: Where is John? on Tue 11 Aug 2015, 21:05

John arrived today with his gear for rehearsals! All is right in the world again.

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12 Re: Where is John? on Tue 11 Aug 2015, 21:29

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Im glad i know they have other projects that they work on separately but there back together and playing together






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13 Re: Where is John? on Thu 20 Aug 2015, 04:30

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In the lyric booklet with the album, it states that Donegan recorded all the Bass tracks for the album

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14 Re: Where is John? on Thu 20 Aug 2015, 10:21

alexling88


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That is extremely unusual. I guess this album was easy for John, considering he have to do anything.

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15 Re: Where is John? on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 01:51

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He probably couldn't be there for recording, but he'll there for concerts. And lookie here, I went to his twitter and found this link from 16th of august





Sunday morning Disturbed jam. That's right while you are nursing your hangover we are at the church of metal!


https://instagram.com/p/6cr9A6pQ5S/

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16 Re: Where is John? on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 18:38

Here's a picture of the personnel liner notes where John is absent and it says Dan wrote the bass lines: http://imgur.com/97Yss7n

Interesting development.  Wonder if he'll be in music videos etc.  Wonder if he'll get any royalties from Immortalized.  Wonder if he contributed at all in any way.  I know he'll be on tour with them, though, obviously.

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17 Re: Where is John? on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 19:39

John's name has never appeared in writing credits as listed on ASCAP since he joined. Immortalized credits everything (except "The Sound of Silence," of course) to Draiman, Donegan, Wengren, and producer Kevin Churko. (Churko is also credited as a co-writer on the Ozzy albums he worked on.) He probably kept busy with other projects during the whole album process. I don't know that he'd get royalties if he neither wrote nor played on it; I'm guessing that his pay has always been handled differently than that of the founding members.

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18 Re: Where is John? on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 20:29

if you watched the webisodes they said he was in san diago (or something) and were bouncing things back and forth. he was indeed involved, but could not officially record them.

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19 Re: Where is John? on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 22:19

Zederia wrote:if you watched the webisodes they said he was in san diago (or something) and were bouncing things back and forth. he was indeed involved, but could not officially record them.
I don't think so.  In fact, I just rewarched the webisodes to be sure and they don't even mention John at any point, or show him.

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20 Re: Where is John? on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 22:21

GizmoKSX wrote:John's name has never appeared in writing credits as listed on ASCAP since he joined. Immortalized credits everything (except "The Sound of Silence," of course) to Draiman, Donegan, Wengren, and producer Kevin Churko. (Churko is also credited as a co-writer on the Ozzy albums he worked on.) He probably kept busy with other projects during the whole album process. I don't know that he'd get royalties if he neither wrote nor played on it; I'm guessing that his pay has always been handled differently than that of the founding members.
I don't have my Disturbed collection with me to verify this, but I'm pretty sure John was credited in both Indestructible and Asylum.  I know he wasn't during TTF because they were "breaking him in" as it were.

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21 Re: Where is John? on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 22:29

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he deserved the credit for TTF and for Immortalized id understand if John came up with the rifts and sent the notes through the net so danny could program them that i could understand if thats what happen but to take credit and again for john not to get any well thats like him being a stand in or a guest on the album






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22 Re: Where is John? on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 01:20

Ravensclaw wrote:he deserved the credit for TTF and for Immortalized id understand if John came up with the rifts and sent the notes through the net so danny could program them that i could understand if thats what happen but to take credit and again for john not to get any well thats like him being a stand in or a guest on the album
I honestly do think it's a possibility that he probably just didn't contribute to writing this record.  It's not very hard to imagine.

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